Re: Infinite Matrix... (a protest,)

hi yasir –
point taken but I still think the comment was meant to be pretty off-hand
(it's a blog afterall), and not meant to prick in the way you took it. bs
wasn't suggesting that the photograph of mushroom cloud + troops was
taking place in india or karachi (the source as I linked to it is quite
accessible, as you saw: http://www.geocities.com/firstpulseproj/BombProject ); in any case the Smiling Buddha test/s etc. were
all underground tests and the only pics you can get are of huge
subsidence craters… why karachi? because karachi is a nuclear meme. the
guy's a sci-fi author, not a social theorist, so he talks and jokes as
one; he's probably got a policy NEVER to be careful about what he says.
just a guess.

meanwhile, the india/pakistan tests and subsequent saber-rattling were a
freak-out, literally and literarily; they serve as a chilling reminder to
the west that they (we) have no control over this legacy of nukes and
their by-products and to feel comfy even in light of the currently
successful stop-gap of deterrence is difficult regardless… vive la
karachi; vive la nueva york; etc.




best wishes in any case,
joy garnett

> Thanks. I perfectly agree. NY and khi are 2 cities I know best.

Yasir: The solution is: reinstatement of free movement of people b/w pakistan & india
(closed since 1947 ! 55 years !), a South Asian Union of countries, an
'independent' Kashmir, demilitarization of South Asia, and so flooding the area
with a peaceful wave that sends the extremists in the region (look up: bjp, vhp,
rss, and the 2 or 3 lashkars)far into the arabian sea, may as far as the US base
there, until they learn to swim with others.

How the hell is that ever gonna happen? That's like saying "The solution to world problems is obvious, fellows: just remove all the corruption, stop all the wars, and feed all the poor! Oh, yeah, and fire all the nukes into space!"

Brilliant political analysis, friend!

-Vijay
>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:17:18 -0500
> [email protected] yasir husain <[email protected]> RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Infinite Matrix… (a protest,)Reply-To: yasir husain <[email protected]>
>
>> I am sorry I dont appreciate the karachi comment:
>the caption is:
>"A particularly evocative shot here. "Well, so much for Karachi." "
>
>I would consider the comment okay if its SF (ie science fiction, but not if its san francisco either, btw gibson's virtual light is pretty close to karachi, but really a fictional takeoff and crash from City of Quartz by Mike Davis).
>
>but the 'properties' of the image show that the shot, the explosion is not khi (karachi):
>
>http://nuketesting.enviroweb.org/hew/Usa/Tests/Bjdog5.jpg
>which comes from: Gallery of U.S. Nuclear Tests (1945-92) at:
>http://nuketesting.enviroweb.org/hew/Usa/Tests/
>
>that's true. a faulty and scary logic. the soldiers wearing dark uniform, eh, not from around here. and besides we are not like them in these matters. so why me or us ? maybe there's a blank in the infomap.
>
>i am sitting and typing this in khi. I believe their is no prospect of a nuclear war in this part of the world. deterrence is successful. the real problem now remains with the bjp who hijack public opinion and indian policy in india.(india: big brother in the region, superman's fantasies, yuck!) I am saying this sitting here in karachi
>The solution is: reinstatement of free movement of people b/w pakistan & india (closed since 1947 ! 55 years !), a South Asian Union of countries, an 'independent' Kashmir, demilitarization of South Asia, and so flooding the area with a peaceful wave that sends the extremists in the region (look up: bjp, vhp, rss, and the 2 or 3 lashkars)far into the arabian sea, may as far as the US base there, until they learn to swim with others.
>
>and of course now there are the oil pipelines coming in through afghanistan and iran to india and to port to ship em away. so.
>
>vive la karachi! or vive la kolachi, the old sindhi saint woman buried in makli, in whose begging-bowl of a city 12 million people live, live. come visit, put please dont nuke em. sound: see if you can find: Sohrab Faqir, Sindhi Music Ensemble. or have you heard Nusrat fateh ali's tribute to Lal Shahbaz of Sehwan: Shahbaz Qalandar.
>
>Please forward to Bruce. thanks.
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